+ Magnolia reviews by Todd Ramlow and Cynthia Fuchs
"It's a weeping movie."
Paul Thomas Anderson describes his new film, Magnolia, in language that only seems simple. He's obviously excited about it, glad to have it released and to be talking about it, which, he observes, is part of the process. "I was exhausted when the movie was coming out in New York and LA, but then I took a couple of
weeks off for the holidays and I was able to kind of get my juice
back, and think, okay, I can do phone calls and talk show things.
I try and balance it out. I mean, I don't want to be
blabbermouth-young-white-director-guy, but I gotta help. You just
don't want to get a disgusting sheen on yourself."
Anderson sounds a little rushed, but more than that, he sounds at
ease with himself and with this deranged business of film
promotion. Since Magnolia is his second high-profile film in as
many years (after Boogie Nights), he knows what to expect, how
to survive what he calls being "burned out," how to squeeze in
breathing between phone interviews and sit-downs with Charlie
Rose or Letterman.
While his first films Hard Eight as well as Boogie Nights
were critically acclaimed immediately, Anderson is now coping
with a range of responses: people love it and don't, sometimes in
the same review. Anderson laughs. "More surprising to me than
anything is something like The New York Times review, which
says, it's a masterpiece for two hours and then this fucking
singing happens. And I'm thinking, you know, the singing is not
that fucking crazy. For me, once they sing, the movie becomes so
much more traditional, the camera doesn't move as much, people
are having conversations, it's picking up the pieces of the first
two hours. But, I'm loving this kind of critical polarity. It's
the first time it's happened to me and I'm actually getting off
on it a little bit."
I ask him about some of his choices for Magnolia, which is
dense with symbolism and populated by grief-stricken and shell-shocked characters. He was inspired in part by his close
friendship with John C. Reilly, who plays the LA cop Jim Kurring.
"That stuff," he remembers, "happened about three or four years
ago, during one summer when we were really bored, and he had
grown a mustache and it just made me laugh. He would do this
character, this guy who was on Cops, and I had a video camera
and we'd drive around and improvise, and call up actors who
weren't working at the time, so we'd call up Phil Hoffman and
say, go to Moore Park and fuck with the trash cans and we'll
drive by in ten minutes and catch you doing it. Then we got a cop
uniform and improvised all these altercations. And eventually I
started writing all that stuff down. A lot of Jim's dialogue is
based on that improvisation, like the Mike Leigh style. It really
is a pretty fucking cool way to work. We've gotta try that
again."
For the subplot involving black characters Marcy and her
aspiring MC grandson Worm Anderson notes that originally,
"there was more of that, and I took it out, but here's the thing.
I stand by the fact that it does function really well the way it
is now. It is the most truncated and elliptical bit of the movie,
but I thank God that there is something truncated and elliptical
in the movie, which does pretty much hit its points. The movie
needs something that has mystery, and this one is sort of a
representation of spending a couple of days in the Valley: that's
how much color would come into your life."
Anderson is plainly thrilled to work with all his actors
Julianne Moore, Philip Baker Hall, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Melora
Walters, William H. Macy, Alfred Molina many of whom have
appeared in one or both of the previous films and are close
friends. He sees them as forming a "family" that helps to
insulate against industry stresses and expectations. He's also
not surprised that Tom Cruise's role, as the outrageous "Seduce
and Destroy" pitchman Frank T.J. Mackey, is garnering the actor
all kinds of attention. "Tom's part is the showcase part, the
smorgasbord for an actor. You get to say 'cunt' and you get to
cry at your daddy's bedside, and get redeemed at the end."
But Mackey is only the most sensational aspect of a theme
pervading the film, damaged children. Anderson adds that this is
connected to another concept fathers nearing the ends of their
lives, now suffering for their past sins. While this general idea
may sound familiar, in Magnolia, it doesn't look quite like
anything you've seen before. Anderson asserts, "It feels like the
sort of thing that comes out of men. Don't they seem like the
best vehicle for that kind of fucking regret? I mean, it's all
fun and games until someone gets hurt." The film shows costs as
well as laments. The dead dog, for instance: Anderson says, "When
I wrote it, I thought, what exactly is this saying? So I decided
to leave it alone. And then, ironically enough, Something About
Mary came out and there's all that wacky, funny dead dog shit
going on in that movie, which actually propelled me to not worry
about it anymore and really do it for real. I felt some beautiful
dead-dog power touching my shoulder, saying, 'No, really. Just do
it. You have some kind of weird reasons that are okay.'"
Anderson's faith in higher powers stretches into a willingness to
roll with ideas that come to him and his many friends and
collaborators, no matter how strange these ideas might seem at
first. He recalls that his friendship with Aimee Mann generated
early versions of characters and situations. Anderson calls Mann
"kind of the start of it. By which I mean, I had a lot of ideas
floating around in my head, probably too many ideas, and she's a
really good friend of mine, and was privy to stuff she was
working on. It was great to have her music as a thing to latch on
to, to help corral all the stuff that was sort of circling around
in my brain. So wanted to just adapt Aimee's songs, like you
would adapt a book or a play. It certainly branched off from
there and didn't become a direct adaption of her songs, but I
ended up stealing many lines from her, first and foremost, "Now
that I've met you would you object to never seeing me again?"
That's the first song of Aimee's song, "Deathly." And the whole
story of Claudia [played by Melora Walters] was born out of
that."
Related to this collaboration is the now legendary story of
Mann's troubles with record labels Imago collapsed just as it
released her first album, a second was released two years late,
and then Geffen and Interscope (once they merged) decided not to
release her last album when she wouldn't come up with a "hit
single" on demand. Working with producer Jon Brion (who did the
other music for Magnolia), Mann has now released the Magnolia
songs on a CD, some of which were originally recorded for that
still-unreleased album, Bachelor No. 2. Anderson says that he
admires Mann's resistance (after the label's "abuse," he notes as
well "Aimee's kind of abuse back, in a noble way"). He says that
his knowing all that history informed some of the songs'
translations into characters, and he feels lucky that he was able
to work without similar demands from New Line, who backed his
project.
"It's so weird," he observes, "that it's a contrast like that
because movies cost so much fucking money. But I actually think
that's why situations like Aimee's arise, because it only cost
$100,000 to make a record, so they will look at you and tell you
to go fuck yourself so fast, you're like, what just happened? And
they're thinking, $100,000 doesn't mean anything to us, which is
why these corporations won' t take any shit from you. But the
funny thing is, with movies, they cost so much money, that at a
certain point, once you start in production, they're kind of at
the mercy of the people making the movie."
Still, Anderson won't be straying too far from the music industry
any time soon, given that his girlfriend is Fiona Apple, who
helped with music for the film, and for whom he has now directed
three videos, including last year's "Fast As You Can," and the
upcoming "Limp." While they like working together and obviously
benefit from it, he says that they're aware of the super-couple
stigma. He says they are consciously "trying to keep a slightly
low profile because we realize that we would hate us. We want
to stick to the work. I wanted to direct Fiona Apple videos
before I went out with Fiona, so generally what we do is do cool
videos together and keep our mouths shut about them."