Atom Egoyan speaks softly and carefully, in complex
sentences. Unexpectedly, this makes our interview difficult,
because we're stuck with a phone line that cuts in and out, so
that our voices intersect and overlap. ("Hello?" "Are you still
there?")
Egoyan is home in Toronto, looking after his 6-year-old son,
while his wife, actress Arsinee Khanjian, is away working in
France. He and I have spoken before, first when Exotica was
released in 1994, and again on the occasion of The Sweet Hereafter in 1997. In the past we've talked about his
explorations of voyeurism and exhibitionism, memory and
repression, desire and fear. This time, we can't help but note
the irony of this crackling, sputtering connection, because we're
talking about his new film, Felicia's Journey, which is all
about gaps in communication and the ways that modern technologies
namely, video and audio recordings shape recollection,
identity, and meaning.
These themes have surely informed Egoyan's previous films
including Family Viewing (1987), Speaking Parts (1989), The Adjuster (1991), and Calendar (1993) but in Felicia's Journey, they seem honed down to a skeletal precision. Where the
earlier films (save for Calendar) involve multiple characters,
with intersecting expectations and disappointments, the new movie
focuses narrowly on two characters, the middle-aged British
serial killer Hilditch (played by Bob Hoskins) and the Irish
teenager Felicia (Elaine Cassidy). Their histories and their
goals divide them, but chance brings them together in a dance of
self-delusion and attempted redemption.
While the themes might be Egoyan's own, the basis for this
script is a novel by William Trevor. I asked Egoyan why he
decided to use another novel as he had for the first time with
Russell Banks' The Sweet Hereafter as the basis for his
script.
Atom Egoyan: I wanted to focus on a simpler, more classic
structure after The Sweet Hereafter, and Trevor's book seemed
perfect. I was fascinated by the characters, both suspended in a
kind of period piece. Felicia [played in the film by Elaine
Cassidy] is coming from a sort if nineteenth-century rural
culture, and Hilditch is removed from his own time. They shock
each other into recognition of who they are and what their
current situations are. It has many different levels cultural,
familial, psychosexual which come together in a compelling
story.
Cynthia Fuchs: Serial killing is by now almost mundane in popular
culture. How did you approach the topic?
AE: That's true. It's almost become a job. The
representation of serial killing in contemporary film culture
makes it an occupation, like lawyering, which I explored in The Sweet Hereafter. That's the only way I can understand the
preponderance of this particular abnormality. We're fascinated by
it because it represents the most extreme moral transgression,
but it's done repeatedly. The seriality of the action becomes
interesting to us structurally, because it alludes to fate and
inevitability and our ability to stop it. In typical serial
killer movies, you have these acts unfolding and a character
trying to stop them. That's the dramatic point of tension.
Felicia's Journey is different, it's not constructed like a
thriller. I consider this more of a drama than a thriller.
CF: It's even more like a melodrama, it's so domestic in
location and spirit.
AE: Exactly. I'm really trying to represent his actions the
way he perceives himself. I don't think he sees himself as a
serial killer. He's convinced himself that he's something other
than what we eventually gather he is. That interests me as well,
his denial, his ability to live in that state, and its
intersecting with Felicia's denial, which is simpler and more
identifiable. She's seventeen years old and she believes that
this young man loves her, and clearly he doesn't. But she has to
believe that and repeat that to herself.
CF: I have to ask you this. One of the cliches in serial
killer imagery from Psycho to Ted Bundy is the bad
mother. How were you thinking about Hilditch's mother, Gala
[Arsinee Khanjian], in this context?
AE: But, how bad a mother is she? I think it's a complex
relationship. One of the things that Arsinee and I discussed was
the difficulty of her position. Given what she was doing, at that
particular time, she had to be so focused and so driven to
succeed. She was probably quite preoccupied with her career. One
of the main differences between the film and the novel is that
the book sexualizes the relationship between mother and son, and
that struck me as being reductive. I am of the belief that some
of us are genetically encoded or hardwired in a certain way that
manifests itself at a young age. What interested me more blaming
the mother, is that now, because of the lack of attention that
Hilditch felt, he has a ritual where he can command Gala's full
attention. He can play her films and redirect her gaze
electronically, to be watching him. He can pretend that this
relationship was completely nurturing. And that ritual has
perverted him more than anything she ever did or didn't do.
CF: Like using her opera glasses to watch her on tv from the
dining room, giving himself control of look?
AE: That's right. I tried to avoid the bad mother cliche,
but I think you've really identified the problem, which is that
we're so predisposed toward the bad mother, as the site of blame,
so that anything that even hints of that is seized on. People
talk about her cruelty to him in the garden. But it's not that
extreme really: she just asks him to move out of the range of
camera. And the moment where he chokes on the liver: my question
is, did that actually happen? There's a fuzzy line between the
video as a document and his state of mind.
CF: So, we only have access to that relationship through his
memories?
AE: Yes. It does fascinate me, as you know, this blurred
line between the tape as a way of representing memory or the tape
as a way of representing the archiving of reality. The mere act
of having that subjective, fetishized moment, leads to its own
behavioral pattern. He's a product of technology as a means to
memory. He's of the first generation who would have been brought
up by and in mass media, so he's chronicling the first gestures
that technology was making in recording childhood. And the other
thing that makes this character disarming is that normally, when
we have these technically oriented characters, they live in
sleek, modern looking homes, like the Baldwin character in
Sliver. But Hilditch doesn't fit that mold, he's not au currant
with the latest technologies, and yet he's a product of
technology as a means to memory.
CF: While images of Felicia's past, appearing as flashbacks,
seem to be more direct?
AE: That's exactly right, but she comes from culture rich in
an oral traditions. Her father tells her stories about 1916, and
her only maternal link is her grandmother, who speaks this
ancient tongue. Felicia's still living in this world where she
has to write letters by hand for her boyfriend and have his
mother deliver them. It's really a nineteenth-century world; she
has a romanticized vision of the world she lives in. It's shot to
look pastoral and traditional.
CF: At times Hilditch seems almost to romanticize his
relationship with her, as if she's his "daughter," to whom he
would give advice.
AE: Yes. And the fathers are awful in the film: the most
violent action we see on screen is Felicia's father banishing
her. That's unspeakably cruel. The moment that Hilditch realizes
that Felicia is carrying a child, I think this forces him to
self-consciousness. I don't think he's used to receiving the sort
of attention that she gives him. He's become accustomed to not
being someone you would look at.
CF: And he's looked at ferociously by the women who come to
sermonize him in his own garden, when he's digging a grave for
Felicia, whom he plans to kill. The women stand over him and
summon the all-knowing, all-punishing Lord Father as a means to
get him to repent, even though they have no idea that he's got
many bodies buried all around them.
AE: That's right. But any message that those women are
purporting to spread is only as strong as they are as messengers.
When he finally admits to a theft, which is really the least of
his crimes, the women can't even begin to fathom what he's really
telling them. I think the garden is important here, as a place
offered as a refuge or sanctuary, but it's only as safe as the
gatekeepers, who are inept in this case.
CF: Hilditch seems ever-ready to cut deals. But his sense of
fairness is so warped, like when Felicia is concerned about the
money for the abortion, he says, "It's my treat," which it's
obviously not. It's such a dark and funny line.
AE: Yes, that is hilarious. And he's paid for the
abortion with her stolen money. I love that line. But no one is
laughing at it. Because of what he does serial killing
there's this set of genre expectations placed on the film, and
that's difficult to navigate. Except for the scenes of Arsinee on
the cooking show, which is so clearly signaled, the film seems
less forthcoming with giving people permission to laugh, so the
humor is elusive.