+ Someone Like You review by Cynthia Fuchs
Stuff has to happen
Tony Goldwyn may be best known as the dastardly
villain in 1990's blockbuster weepie, Ghost, or the
voice of Disney's vine-surfing Tarzan in 1999, or
maybe even the self-cloning bad guy in last year's
The 6th Day. (You may not know that he appeared in
both Friday the 13th, Part VI: Jason Lives and
Friday the 13th, Part VII: The New Blood -- as
different characters!) He certainly has the movie
business in his blood, being the son of actress
Jennifer Howard and producer Samuel Goldwyn Jr., and
the grandson of producer Samuel Goldwyn, one of the
founders of MGM. In 1999, the boyishly handsome
41-year-old actor revealed another side, when he
released his directorial debut, A Walk on the Moon,
a low-budget, independent film starring Diane Lane and
Liev Schreiber. Now, seated in an armchair and
drinking bottled water at the Beverly Hills Four
Seasons, he's talking about his new movie, the
romantic comedy, Someone Like You.
Cynthia Fuchs: Your first film, A Walk on the Moon,
was so very different from the usual genre movies that
come out of Hollywood. What made you want to do a film
that took you back to a more formulaic project?
Tony Goldwyn: I wanted to do something different, and
what appealed to me about Someone Like You was
similar to the case of Diane Lane [in A Walk on the Moon]. I knew that Ashley Judd could kill in this
part. But I also wanted to do something that was more
formulaic in an interesting, fun, fresh way. It was a
challenge to take something that could be done very
superficially, that you've seen a billion times, and
try and bring some substance to it, and surprises, and
have it be an emotionally satisfying and entertaining
experience. A Walk on the Moon was a very simple,
personal, intimate story, and I wanted to do something
180 degrees different than what I had done before.
CF: I know that you reshaped the script -- do you
write dialogue?
TG: I don't actually write, no. But I do a lot of
acting for the writers. I had a theory about how to
make the script work, because structurally it was
quite different at first, and I had certain things
that I wanted to bring to it. I pitched my take to the
studio, and then to [screenwriter] Elizabeth Chandler,
and they all said, "That makes a lot of sense." I had
a theory and then we had to see if it would work. In
the original, Eddie [Hugh Jackman] and Jane [Judd]
don't get together in the end. Jane just had a
realization about what love meant, and it had nothing
to do with Eddie. But I said, this is a romantic
comedy, and wanted them to discover each other. We
tightened it up. It was intensive work with Elizabeth,
but the most "writing" that I'd do is that I'd
improvise scenes for her. Only in one case, literally
on set, I rewrote a scene.
CF: When you direct, do you control the set or do you
see yourself as flexible?
TG: I view the whole thing as a collaboration. As an
actor, I always found that to be the most freeing
thing, when the director would collaborate with you,
so that together you'd come up with something
exponentially better. With A Walk on the Moon, I
didn't know what I was doing as a director, but I knew
having worked with a lot of first time directors that
the ones who surrounded themselves with good people
were successful, if they knew what story they wanted
to tell. I knew I had strengths in terms of
storytelling and was confident I could get good
performances out of the actors. So it was an effort to
empower every person to do their best work, and them,
collate all of it. You end up making decisions about
everything and sometimes manipulating things to get
what you want, but I have all these incredibly gifted
people, who sometimes know of a hell of a lot more
than I do, and if not, at least bring a fresh
perspective. I try to milk that perspective. I find
that the more open I am, the more decisive I can be in
the end.
CF: It sounds like you are fairly confident. Were you
always that way?
TG: No, it's something I've cultivated. It was
something I discovered only five or six years ago,
that really improved my work as an actor. I used to
agonize over choices. And literally, a shrink helped
me; he said, "As soon as you';ve done something,
forget it. Move on to the next thing." He told me that
in business there's a statistic, that the people who
make the most successful decisions make the most
decisions. The more decisions you make, the better,
statistically, your odds of success are. And what I
also learned was, it doesn't matter: anything can be
fixed. When you're directing, you can agonize, but you
can't indulge. Stuff has to happen.
CF: One of these good people with whom you worked on
this film is your cinematographer, Tony Richmond. I
know that you wanted a "realistic" look for the film
-- what does that mean for you?
TG: Tony shot A Walk on the Moon, and he and I had
such an intimate relationship [on that film]. And his
style is very realistic, very organic, he moves the
camera with the actors. And that's what I wanted to
do, with regard to the formulaic nature of the genre.
While being true to the genre, I wanted it to be real.
I wanted it to be in New York, and fought shooting in
Canada. I wanted New York in a real way; I didn't want
to do Nora Ephron's or Woody Allen's New York. If
Jane's in the belly of the beast, let's go to the
meat-packing district! Let Hogs 'n' Heifers be the bar
they go to. Let's have her live in Chinatown, and feel
that cramped sense. I wanted a more rough-around-the
edges feeling, and not be post-cardy. Ashley is a
movie star, and she's beautiful, but she worked to not
glam herself up. It's still Ashley Judd at the end of
the day, but we were trying to bring other feelings to
it.
CF: There's another strand in the film, that has to do
with this tension between reality and unreality --
that has to do with the critique of pop media, the
talk shows and Jane's pseudonymic alter-ego, Dr. Marie
Charles.
TG: Exactly. It's something where I had to make a
choice. In the original script, the third act of the
script was really all about Marie Charles. It was
commentary on the New Cow Theory and how big it had
gotten. My feeling was, it was interesting from a
topical point of view, but at the end of the day, it's
really about her discovery that her heart is connected
to the last person on earth she ever thought her heart
would be connected to. And only when she can throw off
her preconceptions, can she find something. Put
another way, I said, the Eddie-Jane story has got to
be the money here. The other thing has to become
subservient to that.
CF: The tv scam is more interesting, though, than the
New Cow Theory, which is obviously a hook. And Jane's
emotional journey is certainly more interesting than
the theory.
TG: To me it was. I felt like if we started saying
that the Theory is the thing, we'd lose everybody. The
book is all about the Theory. It's a funny book, but
it's not something you'd sit for, for ninety minutes
in a movie. The book is acerbic and witty, but I said,
"I don't care about this theory." The theory is only
useful as her way of realizing how ridiculous it is.
What really interested me was the phenomenon, of what
we do when we get hammered in life, this obsession
with making sense of it or coming up with a policy or
a principle that protects us from it ever happening
again. To be guarded against the world like that is a
recipe for disaster and loneliness. That lesson is
interesting to me.
CF: There are so many pieces that give us access to
Jane -- the secondary characters who have their own
plots and have to come together. How did you pull all
that together?
TG: The sister was tricky, and Marisa [Tomei] was
tricky.
CF: She could so easily have been the Joan Blondell
character.
TG: And that's why I chose Marisa, because I thought
that exact thing, that she could fall into being "the
kooky best friend." In the book, Liz was a man-hungry
desperado. Marisa said, I'm not interested in playing
that character, and I said, I'm not interested in that
character. Liz as to have her own point of view. And
for the sister, she's only in three scenes -- how do
you do that and not make her into a device? It's a
matter of making everything relevant. For instance, I
had much more of Ray and Jane's relationship in the
beginning of the movie, to explain why she fell for
this guy. And I realized that the audience was way
ahead, and this was eating up too much time. A friend
of mine said, "I loved all that stuff, but when she
moved into Eddie's apartment, I thought, now the
movie's really getting started -- this is going to be
a long movie!" So it was imbalanced. It was painful to
cut because Greg was so brilliant, but you gain so
much more when you cut. I hope Greg feels that way!
Everything has to pay off in an economic way, as the
movie finds its own rhythm.
CF: How are you imagining your directing future?
TG: I want to keep doing different things. I'd like to
do a more personal, dramatic movie next, I think. But
as long as it's about characters and good writing and
good parts for actors, that's what's important. I
don't want to do an action movie, because I've acted
in them, and they're so boring to do, because they're
so technical. The headache of that is daunting. But...
if it were an action movie with really interesting
characters, how great would that be?