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Lil Jon, Cowboy Troy, Big Kenney, John Legend, and John Rich at the 2007 Country Music Awards (Photo by David Vespie) Torch & TwangWho Says Country Can’t Hip-Hop?[26 November 2008] By Juli ThankiPoverty, crime, disenfranchisement, sinning, saving, and no-account women: Stereotypical subjects of the average country song, or the average hip-hop song? While stylistically and culturally these two genres seem to be on opposite ends of the musical spectrum, the truth is that they have more in common than their devotees are likely to admit. Country and hip-hop owe major debts to the Southern gospel tradition, which was heavily influenced by slavery. The soundtrack to O Brother, Where Art Thou? features roots songbirds Alison Krauss and Gillian Welch teaming up on gospel standard “I’ll Fly Away”. Kanye West’s The College Dropout features a cover of the same song, replacing string band strumming with electric organ and church choir harmony. West’s soulful voice, not to mention the song’s placement on the album—in between two tracks of pulsing beats and snarled obscenities—give the song an entirely different feel from the delicate Krauss/Welch collaboration, but the meaning behind the lyrics and the emotion in the vocals is the same. After all, both hip-hop and country are folk musics, made by and for specific groups of people who were and are often dependent on oral tradition—and what binds a group more closely than another significant element of oral tradition: religion? And despite the different arrangements of “I’ll Fly Away”, Krauss, Welch, and West are all performing the hymn with the intention of singing their God’s praises with a song that has orally been transmitted from white to black, South to North. Like real estate, hip-hop music is contingent upon location, location, location. West Coast, East Coast, Dirty South: where you’re from is who you are, and the differences within hip-hop music reflect these geographical differences in both dialect and musical arrangement. Country music is equally tied to place; where hip-hop is urban, country is rural. No other forms of American music—with the possible exception of Motown R&B in its heyday—are so dependent on the location of its artists. Along with this emphasis on location is the associated economic demographic. Poverty was (and is) constantly present from the rural South to the projects, mostly due to lack of educational and employment opportunities, but with the occasional natural disaster (the Dust Bowl and Hurricane Katrina, to name just two) lending a hand. Not only does this lack of opportunity lead to further feelings of alienation and disenfranchisement, it also has a startling effect on crime, which is then represented in songs portraying people putting food on the table by any means possible. Whether it’s robbery, pimping, or simply sucker-punching your boss (Johnny Cash’s “Oney”), the exploited now becomes the exploiter. Women play nearly identical roles in both country and hip-hop: there’s the lying, cheating, thieving whore (in country music, this is the “honky tonk angel” while rap eschews the cutesy euphemism and sticks with the oldie but goodie “bitch”), and then there’s mama, the angel of the house who can do no wrong and always leaves the porch light on for her lying, cheating, and whoring sons. Country music may lack the explicit language of hip-hop, but the general ideology of misogyny is still there, most obviously in murder ballads, but also in the Madonna/whore dichotomy of country music as a whole. However, it must be said that the hos in country music have more agency than the hos of rap. Case in point: Reba McEntire’s “Fancy”, in which the eponymous character becomes a prostitute out of necessity and eventually becomes extremely wealthy thanks to her upper-class clients, which include “a king, a Congressman, and the occasional aristocrat”. The hookers of rap music are typically tied to a pimp who takes most of the women’s pay, physically abuses them, and exercises control over all aspects of their lives. The Oscar-winning Three 6 Mafia song “It’s Hard Out Here for a Pimp” addresses these very real violent issues: “Wait, I got a snow bunny and a black girl too / You pay the right price and they’ll both do you / That’s the way the game goes, gotta keep it strictly pimpin’ / Gotta keep my hustle tight, makin’ change off these women.” In light of this, Fancy becomes the odd feminist out, becoming economically independent through exploitation of both her sexuality and those who would otherwise prey upon it, while the Three 6 Mafia pimp exploits a girl who “don’t know no better / I know that ain’t right”. On a more shallow and far less depressing note, there’s fashion. Sure, country and hip-hop seem to be divided into the too-tight versus too-loose dichotomy, but it turns out that twangers and rappers can unite under the rhinestone-studded umbrella of bling. 50 Cent would kill for Webb Pierce’s Pontiac. Again, it all comes down to money. After years of being a “have not”, once the struggling musician lands a record deal, the rapid rise in economic and social status is reflected through bombastic displays of wealth verging on parody: gold chains, platinum grills, flashy Nudie suits, and silver dollar emblazoned automobiles. ![]() Webb Pierce’s Pontiac Bonneville at the Country Music Museum and Hall of Fame (Photo via flickr) Let’s also consider the shared element of the Screwed-Up Genius Who Died Before His Time, a figure that populates all genres of American music, but seems to hang over country and hip-hop like a specter to a far greater extent than, say, Buddy Holly does for rock ‘n’ roll. In country, it’s Hank Williams, who at the age of 29 drank and drugged himself to death in the back of a Cadillac on the way to perform at a New Year’s show in Ohio. Despite his short recording career, Williams was responsible for writing some of country music’s most lasting songs, including “Your Cheatin’ Heart”, “I Saw the Light”, and “Cold Cold Heart”. For hip-hop, the specter is Tupac Shakur, whose violent and unsolved murder and thug-life influence pervades hip-hop music 15 years later, as he remains the bestselling rapper of all time, with an estimated 75 million records sold. While hip-hop and country will always be separate entities, the genres are blending in odd ways. Who can forget the atrocious collaboration between Nelly and Tim McGraw? (Seriously, if you have found a way to forget other than “DIY lobotomy”, let me know.) Big and Rich used the hip-hop format on their hit song “Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)”, and covered the Beastie Boys on a recent charity record, though perhaps a more charitable decision would be for these two crapmongers to quit making their brand of “music” entirely. Furthermore, part of their “Muzik Mafia” entourage is no-hit wonder Cowboy Troy, a black rapper and self proclaimed “hick-hop” artist, clothed in Western wear and spitting lyrics such as: “See me ridin’ into town like a desperado / With a big belt buckle / The cowboy Dorado.” Troy’s music lacks the pathos of quality country music and the social consciousness of quality hip-hop. In short, he’s the worst of both worlds, and his recent fade into obscurity is entirely deserved. Also jumping on the country bandwagon is former Detroit rapper, ex-Mr. Pamela Anderson, current hack Kid Rock. He’s attached himself to fading star Hank Williams, Jr. who in between re-recording stuff for Monday Night Football performs and records with Kid, whom he refers to as his “rebel son”. Toby Keith experimented briefly with rap rhythms on the chanted chart topper “I Wanna Talk About Me” back in 2001. Former House of Pain rapper Everlast has been mixing country, hip-hop, and blues for over a decade as a solo artist. His most recent album Love, War, and the Ghost of Whitey Ford delivers a gritty cover of “Folsom Prison Blues” (complete with throwback “Jump Around” sampling) and “Friend”, a sparse ballad featuring rustic acoustic guitar. There are some country/hip-hop blends that are wonderful, such as the delightfully infectious bluegrass cover of Snoop Dogg’s “Gin and Juice”, recorded by the Gourds and reportedly loved by Snoop himself. Speaking of Mr. Dogg, he has repeatedly expressed admiration for original gangsta Johnny Cash, recording the tribute song “My Medicine” and working with Cash’s son, John Carter, on Johnny Cash Remixed. Southern rappers Nappy Roots went platinum with their 2002 album Watermelon, Chicken, and Gritz, which features numerous rural vignettes reminiscent of country music at its hardscrabble best:
Country and hip-hop are probably the two most polarizing genres in music today, fiercely beloved by fans while disparaged by detractors, so I’m expecting a fair bit of hate mail from both sides decrying the other as hillbilly or thug music. Nevertheless, the similarities are there, and refusal to acknowledge the shared musical history of country and hip-hop is mere ignorance. I’m not asking for everyone to run right out and listen to Gangstagrass, but with a little bit of effort and understanding, fans of both can live together in disenfranchised, stick-it-to-the-Man harmony. Reba McEntire - Fancy Torch & Twang
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Comments
That was a great write-up and you covered every cross-over that popped into my head while reading it. Thank you!
Comment by L.B. Jeffries — November 26, 2008 @ 9:29 am
Juli, try to mix water and oil, they are liquids but they donīt fit together. So Country and Hip Hop donīt get on well.
You did a good job but it would be a better one if most of the country music you mentioned would be true country music, but you focused in mainstream “country” music, which has become a sort of teen nashpop or southern flavoured pop.
You also can find many similar subjects and lyrics in soul, jazz, rock, blues, pop… donīt prove much only that they talk about life and common people.
There have been other experiments like mixing reggae with country (Bellamy Brothers, Willie Nelson…) but they are only that: experiments.
I believe most of these hip-hop-rap-country productions are designed and “cooked” in the “kitchen” of some marketing office, trying to sell more to new audiences or squeezing the popularity of Johnny Cash or any other myth. Not true, not real, just fake.
I think hard core hip hop or country fans donīt play this game.
Go to Texas and find out how many country-hiphop stuff you can find there.
Comment by Guille from Madrid, Spain — November 27, 2008 @ 3:12 am
Guille, thanks for your comments. My general theory when looking at these 2 genres is that hip hop—despite several of its components (call and response, etc.) which date back 200+ years—is still a fairly new musical style, especially when compared to traditional country music. And while hip hop is generally at the forefront of musical experimentation and modernity, traditional country is just that: traditional. But hip hop is rapidly becoming “America’s Music,” and my guess is that the pervasiveness of the genre will eventually be reflected in genres like country—whether commercial or “real,” as you say.
I am a big fan of classic country; like you I think it’s far more real than what’s being played on the radio. However, I think that country and hip hop might fit together better than you think. Check out B-Star or Rench; they’re mixing hip hop beats and country style, and they sure aren’t the invention of some record company.
Comment by Juli Thanki — November 27, 2008 @ 9:50 am
You said “hip hop is generally at the forefront of musical experimentation and modernity”.
Juli, there are many kinds of country, and you are comparing hip hop only with what the mainstream lobby call “traditional country”. Perhaps you should compare it with alternative country or some other modern expressions of country like Hank III.
“Hip hop is rapidly becoming Americas Music. Donīt get messed by your enthusiasm. You should prove with numbers what you are saying, according to the Nielsen Soundscan rap music lost 30% in sales last year, while “country” lost 16ī5%. Music for dummies still enjoys a good health.
Perhaps I donīt have your intuition or psychic powers :) but I donīt see a new musical stream called hiphop-country or country-hop. Time will tell.
Comment by Guille from Madrid, Spain — December 1, 2008 @ 3:25 am
By the way I particularly doubt about the hip hop 200 year history. Following that history string country music would have 400 years, but then only anglo-celtic ballads were played. Most of the experts coincide that the Eck Robertsonīs recordings and the Bristols sessions with the Carter Family mark the beginning of country music as we know it today. One of the most popular American musics, and Iīd say decisive to understand the contemporary American music in the 20th century.
Country music has received several black influences through gospel, blues, banjo… great afroamerican singers has impacted in country audiences like Charley Pride or the country recordings of Ray Charles. Nowadays people like Trini Triggs or Carl Ray play country very well. Sincerely the Nash industry has searched for black faces like Rissi Palmer or Darius Rucker only to increase their influence in the afroamerican audiences. This is a well planned strategy. They are still searching for a new hispanic star.
But Iīll always prefer true honest music, like the Carolina Chocolate Drops, people searching for their roots and heritage, exploring the past to live a future in country music.
Comment by Guille from Madrid, Spain — December 1, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
Guille, I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree here. Listening to Caribbean and African field recordings from the early 20th century, I hear the nascent roots of hip hop beginning to form. And of the slave spirituals that were recorded—at least the ones I’ve heard courtesy of the WPA—there are several elements of African rhythms and vocal styles which then became integral elements of the blues and hip hop.
I would also suggest that country music has a longer history than since circa 1927—perhaps not 400 years, but when collecting the Child Ballads, several of those old English/Irish/Scot ballads were found in America. A.P. Carter himself went songcatching throughout Virginia and Tennessee, occasionally altering them, then copyrighting them under his own name. It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to say that even if the modern country era started with Peer’s Bristol Sessions, it is certainly due to these influence and subsequent updating of old ballads (whether recorded in the Child collection or not and regardless of their country of origin)—some of which were centuries old even then.
At least we can agree that the Carolina Chocolate Drops are fantastic roots musicians.
Comment by Juli Thanki — December 1, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
Right, Juli :)))
Comment by Guille from Madrid, Spain — December 4, 2008 @ 5:37 am
I’ve been trying to explain this to my twangy friends for years. Thank you for affirming my beliefs. Quality reading for real fans of real music.
Comment by Michael Crabtree from Paris — March 4, 2009 @ 5:57 pm
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