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Brand Upon the Brain!
A Fairy Tale Childhood: An Interview with Guy Maddin[14 August 2008] The Canadian cult director talks to PopMatters about family, childhood, memory and his cinematic Gesamptkunstwerks that often look like damaged artifacts dredged up from an archive of lost 1920s and '30s film. by Robert LoerzelCanadian cult director Guy Maddin’s Brand Upon the Brain! was truly a spectacular event when it toured movie theaters in 2006 and 2007—not just a silent film, but a silent film with an orchestra, foley artists making sound effects, live narration by performers including Lou Reed, and a singer billed as a castrato. It just came out on DVD (August 12) from the Criterion Collection and the surreal, seemingly archaic movie gets a similar spectacular treatment, with optional narration tracks by Isabella Rossellini, Laurie Anderson, John Ashbery, Crispin Glover, Guy Maddin, Louis Negrin and Eli Wallach. Maddin’s films, which also include Tales From the Gimli Hospital, Careful and The Saddest Music in the World, often look like damaged artifacts dredged up from an archive of lost 1920s and ‘30s cinema. His most recent, a “docufantasia” about his hometown called My Winnipeg, has been in theaters this summer. ![]() My Winnipeg(IFC Films; US theatrical: 13 Jun 2008; UK theatrical: 4 Jul 2008) In Brand Upon the Brain!, a character named Guy Maddin reminisces about his childhood at a lighthouse, where his domineering mother and mad-scientist father ran an orphanage, occasionally tapping into the kids’ brains for life-renewing fluids. A harp-playing teenage girl detective arrives to investigate, and young Guy falls in love. But when the sleuth disguises herself as a boy, Guy’s sister becomes smitten, too. The Criterion DVD will include a documentary on the making of Brand, an essay by critic Dennis Lim, a deleted scene and two new Maddin short films, It’s My Mother’s Birthday Today and Footsteps. Although the Maddin childhood depicted in Brand Upon the Brain! doesn’t match the one in My Winnipeg (which shows him living at a beauty parlor rather than a lighthouse), Maddin insisted in an interview that the bizarre Brand is not that far from reality.
How autobiographical is Brand Upon the Brain?
All of the little episodes around the campfire, and the burial of my father—that was only slightly altered. That was transplanted from the burial of my grandfather, who was buried in a flood season. My mother and her mother, they made a truce over my grandfather’s body out on the farm during flood season. They had to cut his clothing off him because he’d been twisted up by rigor mortis, and then bind him and then sew a burial suit onto him, while my mother’s brothers dug a grave—which was full of water, naturally, it being flood season in the Interlake. It’s a very low-lying land between Lake Winnipeg and Lake Manitoba. And then all six children had to stand on the coffin to sink it, while this father was sort of held down by his victims and buried, one sloppy spadeful at a time. All that stuff’s true. It’s all true. It’s all true. I didn’t have time to make up anything for this movie. I had to write it very quickly. And that’s why it kind of all adds up in a weird way. Usually when you get a script, there’s also sorts of things you have to boil down and things that stick out and don’t quite fit—like a badly built fence. But this one sort of came out in one big piece.
But people are going to look at this film and think it’s total fantasy.
But then I feel great, megalomanically entertaining, when the theater fills up and I feel the interaction of the audience. I forgive myself.
Does your mother know about the movie?
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What happened to growing up in Winnipeg that was the source of all these strange things coming out in your films years later?
For instance, when I was young, I had a brother, who took his own life. I was six. It didn’t really hit me hard in any way. I mean, I loved him and everything, I guess, but I was too young to understand it. But it was explained to me that, since he’d taken his life on the grave of his ex-girlfriend, that he’d gone to heaven to be married to this girl and that he was where he wanted to be. Later on, when I was reading The Sorrows of the Young Werther or something like that, I started to realize that my childhood had been a German Romantic one or a fairy-tale-ish one. On my mother’s side, they came straight from Iceland, which is I guess is one of the most remote and Lutheranly austere countries in the world. They came and settled in this really remote region of the country and had no contact with city life that even remote Winnipeg offered. So my mom had sort of a 17th century Lutheran upbringing. You know, the witch burnings and severe flagellations and chastisements and things like that. So this is the kind of ethos brought into play in my own childhood. It makes it hard for me to get along with my mom (now 90) to this day, and for her grandchildren and great-grandchildren to get along with her, because she just literally comes not from last century, but about three centuries ago. And so there’s a lot of sulfur and brimstone.
How did you connect with the Film Company in Seattle to make Brand Upon the Brain?
I wrote a script, e-mailed it to them. Some guys built some sets, costumes. Everything was done by e-mail, including casting. QuickTime files of auditions were sent to me. They agreed with me that working quickly is best. I like just attacking a movie. So in very short order, I was flying to Seattle, landed, did a quick costume check, saw everybody naked. They sort of stripped down for me. Gave me big West Coast hugs and kisses in the nude, and got me pretty excited about making the movie. I gave a quick tour of the sets that I’d seen only in sketch form and jpegs. And then the next morning we started shooting for the first of nine days. I lost 18 pounds in nine days, just sort of running up and down the sands of Puget Sound, shooting long days, just gobbling up images with two Super8 cameras going at once, me and the director of photography, both just shooting, shooting, shooting—sometimes without even looking through the lens, just kind of vacuuming up imagery with the cameras—almost like Dust Busters, these little Super8 cameras. And then we spent a long time editing the movie after that. Because it’s a pretty intensely edited piece.
There are a lot of very quick edits in it.
Just sort of a facsimile of how the nervous system might work. It’s only a facsimile. I don’t claim that it’s a better form of memory than the good old-fashioned flashback, but it’s something that I wanted to use.
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What were your early experiences with film or the idea of expressing yourself as an artist?
I brought a kind of desperate realization that I was way behind everybody in books and film—and maybe some species of maturity. I think it does make a difference to approach these things as an adult, but for the first time—so you can be both and adult and a child at the same time. Maybe I’m lucky that my start as a reader and a viewer was delayed, because I really had that desperation to do something about this delayed exposure to all things smart. And I had the time, since I was a slacker, to do something about it. And then I suddenly found myself possessed, with nothing special, but with an off-the-rack desire to express myself somehow. I was a good enough reader to know that I could never be a great writer, but primitive film struck me as a good analogy to primitive music. I really liked the Ramones and British punk music, all that. I really liked the fact that my favorite musicians barely knew how to play their instruments. So maybe I stood a chance. Never could I be a good film technician, but maybe I could be a basement filmmaker. And so I decided to try to express myself there. And all of my attempts at effects in film were literary effects—not bookish, but going for metaphors. Going for the kind of tingles that a good metaphor can get. I was always trying for that. Failing, of course, and getting something else. That’s why the movies are probably a little odder than I thought they would be, because they’re all failures to reach metaphoric heights. Metaphors just don’t work in films like they do on the page.
Your films seem like homages to various kinds of early cinema, whether it’s silent films or movies from the period just after sound was added. Did you watch a lot of those?
I tried to talk a little bit in Brand Upon the Brain! about how I can never quite feel things right the first time things happen. When my daughter was born, I wasn’t happy enough, I felt. I thought, “Well, the next time she’s born, I’ll be happier.” You know? And when my dad died, I didn’t grieve enough, and I thought, “Well, next time he dies, I’ll grieve properly.” I don’t know, it’s kind of an odd feeling. When I first picked up a camera, I thought, “I’m going to start at the beginning.” It was actually plausible that I could rewrite film history, one movie at a time, and work my way up from primitive silents to part talkies to Technicolor musicals and then exploitation pictures and the whole gamut. It didn’t even occur to me that it would cost too much money to finish even my first picture, which it did, and so I was delayed. So I’m not paying any homages, I don’t think. Occasionally, I’m plagiarizing things, but I think I’m such poor plagiarist that I defy you to find out what it is I’m plagiarizing.
The grainy quality of Brand Upon the Brain! reminds me of some ‘40s and ‘50s films, and the editing reminds me of early Soviet films. Was that deliberate?
I just feel that film has always been industry as much as it had been art. It’s been the industry that has hastened it along far too quickly. Everyone is familiar with the belief that the silent era was just beginning to peak when it was abandoned completely in the haste of the industry. If you just go back along the roadway of film history, you can find all these great vocabulary units and tropes. You can just dust them off and use them. So that’s what I do. I just collected all these things, and I use them whenever I feel like it. They still feel fresh to me. You know, whenever you first encounter German Expressionism or Russian Constructivism, it seems so modern and exciting. And it doesn’t seem musty at all. You can feel the influence of that stuff in modern furniture design and architecture and music and even in graphic arts. There’s a reason that stuff feels really modern. It was so strong, and it was abandoned really quickly—by film, anyway, while it moved on to other hot trends. I’m happy to use these things. They still work really well. I suspect some things from early film were just created something so strongly and out of something so primal that I suspect they’re as timeless as the best fairy tales and Bible stories and cave paintings and things like that. I think they’re just good.
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Other than making this film in Seattle, you typically make movies around where you live, right?
So are you just comfortable living and working in Winnipeg?
So I’ve just done my childhood, and I’ve found that it actually changes the way I dream now. Because I’ve finished Brand Upon the Brain! I no longer have these incredibly nostalgic dreams about my childhood and the unfinished business of my family. It feels like it’s finished now. And [since I made My Winnipeg], I’ll be finished with Winnipeg. It’ll certainly be finished with me. I say it’s a docufantasia because the city is so trippy and dreamy and sleepy and trance-y that any documentary on it would have to be a fantasia, if it were being honest.
What has it been like working with Isabella Rosselini in Brand Upon the Brain! and The Saddest Music in the World?
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