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Women Lawyers, Bankers, and Presidents? Sure. Women Rockers? Not Just Yet.[5 December 2008] It's 2008, the 21st century -- we may not have reached full equality yet, but women have made huge strides in a number of industries. So why is that at show after show, on stage after stage, we still have to ask "Where are all the ladies at?"
By David SingerWhere are the women rock musicians? John Mayer had nine men and no women on stage this past summer. There were no women in Bonnie Raitt’s band, no women in Joan Osborne’s band, and one woman in Wynton Marsalis’ 15-member Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra—and of course her one big solo of the night was on flute. The sad list goes on and on. This summer, when the Doobie Brothers and Chicago joined together on stage after their double-billed shows, some 15 guys were on the stage—but not even a female vocalist. You can talk to dozens of people who saw them, and not one will mention the absence of women. Because no one notices. You’re more likely to see a token woman on the board of a Fortune 500 company or at a construction site than playing an instrument on a national rock tour. I review a little more than 50 concerts a year for a local paper in the Albany, NY, region, a two-hour drive north of New York City. Recently, I started tracking the gender make-up of the band members supporting the national acts. Counting back only 15 shows, I scored 151 men to eight women. Of the eight women, five were the lead singers—for example, Laurie Anderson and Aimee Mann. The other three were in Lez Zeppelin, a female cover band. To be fair, some of these groups were old, established bands, like the Allman Brothers, Ratdog, and the Dickey Betts Band, all which, it can be argued, owe it to their mostly-male fans to protect their all-male brand. I also included the 18 men in the Count Basie Orchestra, which isn’t rock at all. But it’s relevant to note that women were notoriously kept out of jazz bands—specifically big bands—right up to the ‘80s, partially for fear of provoking romantic rivalries, and because they required different sleeping and dressing arrangements, causing higher travel costs. And then, of course, there’s also the fact that jazz has a history of blatant sexism and racism.
![]() Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra The skewed numbers make the point. For rock music in the year 2008, women have virtually no access, and no one seems to care. There may be no other industry or form of entertainment—outside of sports—that has such institutional discrimination. Law firms and banks do better than the “progressive” world of rock music. So what’s going on here? Is it blatant sexism at the highest level? Are the big bad record labels responsible? Are only a few special women capable of playing instruments at a professional level? Do we blame the high schools? Music programs at the colleges? There seem to be obstacles at almost every entry point, from the social reality of teen garage bands to the indifference of large-grossing arena-tour promoters. The Locker Room Culture I saw Lez Zeppelin for the first time this summer—four women who cover the Led Zeppelin songbook. While they fell short in most areas, Steph Paynes nailed Jimmy Page: not only with her guitar playing, but her posture and physical motion. The seamy venue was packed, largely with men, because that’s the kind of audience Zeppelin attracts. But there were also men there eager to mock silly women trying to penetrate the men’s club. Paynes quickly quieted them (and me) with her patient, precise, and eventually ferocious Page licks—note for note most of the time, which is what a crowd of inebriated men want to hear from a cover band.
![]() Lez Zeppelin Admittedly, my first reaction was, “Not bad for a woman.” After managing to swallow that reaction, it occurred to me that Paynes was the best female lead guitarist I had ever seen. I then realized that I couldn’t think of a female lead guitarist I’d seen in the past year. I’m not talking about the woman singer who plays an adequate slide guitar for two songs to show she has some chops. That’s more gimmick. I’m talking about the person who is hired as the lead guitarist, or even rhythm guitarist. I’ve seen a few bassists, lots of back-up singers, violinists, dancers, a few drummers, a dozen keyboardists—“That’s my beautiful wife on the keyboards”—but in my less-than-scientific survey, women made up barely 5% of the groups. The Van Fraternity Even today, there are very few ways for rock musicians to get to the top of the business without that experience of traveling and sleeping in vans as they move from city to city, explains Eastman School of Music professor John Covach, a rock historian and a guitarist who logged his own time on the road in his younger days. The rock band, he says, is a fraternity. “Most of the players today toured as 20-somethings, with a fraternity mentality. I can still feel that way when I play, like I’m stepping back into my early years.” Given that scenario, the apprentice system of rock-n-roll remains a barrier of entry for women.
![]() Jobbykrust Women starting at this later age miss critical apprenticeship years as teens, when the guys are honing their playing and performing skills, writes Clawson in her paper titled “When Women Play the Bass.” And according to Clawson, at least one study suggests that women in rock played the bass more than other instruments because of its subtle, supportive role, as well as its general anonymity and ease of learning. The lack of visible role models figures high for girls in high school and college who stop pursuing their instruments, according to a University of Wyoming study of high school and college jazz participation across genders. With so few on the road in pursuit of the dream, and even fewer succeeding, many don’t try, writes the study’s author, Kathleen McKeage. Another route to success, says Kudisan Kai, is through auditions in Los Angeles or New York. Kai, a professor at the Berklee College of Music, was trained in opera before shifting to jazz vocals and touring with the likes of Anita Baker, Natalie Cole, Chaka Kahn, and six years with Elton John. “At the beginning of your career, you audition,” she says, noting that it’s a small circle who even learn about the auditions. “Once you play on a tour, do a good job, get along with everyone, you get referred.” This insularity creates a catch-22 cycle for those not on the inside. Melanie Krahmer, drummer and lead singer of Sirsy, an upstate New York band that plays throughout the northeast, knows how good she had it as the only woman in a band. “Traveling is always tough, but I’d get my own room and the guys had to share,” she says. “I’ve have a lot of people tell me, ‘You’re a pretty good drummer for a woman,’” Krahmer says. “But when they tell me I’m a good singer, they never say, ‘for a woman.’” Carrying in her drum kit, many assume she’s the drummer’s girlfriend. The problem bands face, even bands who want to add a woman for its novelty, says Krahmer, is that “there are far fewer women to choose from than men.” There are simply not a lot of women musicians out there. “If they’re kicking ass, they’ll get the gig,” Kai said of women musicians, noting that many bands these days want that added character of a woman on stage. Kai contends here that women musicians can be more marketable than men. Baby Steps Kai held the first annual “Women in Rock” forum at Berklee earlier this year, inviting several women like Nona Hendryx, Joyce Kennedy, Siedah Garrett, and Me’Shell Ndegeocello, all successful models for young women. “I’m trying to bring attention to women,” Kai said. More specifically, she’s focused on African American women, who face an even higher mountain to climb. “African American women rockers do exist,” Kai said, hoping the week-long celebration will resonate with those who want to pursue this path.
![]() Kai concedes that Boston’s Berklee is a male-dominated college, but is moving in the right direction. She cited the Sister Circle, a place for women in the college to support one another, the annual Women Musicians Network, and her upcoming class on women musicians as just a few of examples. But these efforts, noble as they seem, are too little and a bit too late, and aren’t sufficient to take on such a large issue. Changing the systems of institutional discrimination requires colossal efforts from all the stakeholders. Eastman’s School of Music undergraduate population is about 52% male and 48% female. That’s when you include strings, opera, voice, winds, piano, and other areas. For bass students only, it’s 81% male, and 19% female. For percussion, it’s 85% male, and 15% female. High school music programs focus on concert bands and orchestra, with some emphasis on jazz bands. Formal rock programs at the high school level are very rare. But traditional garage bands remain as popular as ever for boys. My 10th grade son can name six different rock bands in his high school: Not one has a girl, he told me. While record labels and radio stations have traditionally controlled the music that gains national exposure at the top-level, it’s still a bottom-up, organic process, most groups rising on their own, stubbornly dogged bands that drive from town to town seeking to build a steady following. While some of the equation has changed due to the Internet, the labor-intensive road-tested performance portion remains critical. At the same time, this necessary entry into the professional rock world remains one of, if not the largest barrier for women who are more-or-less prohibited participation, given the male-centered formula for road travel on a struggling budget. That rock bands have long been a masculine institution is not news. What should be news is that this institution hasn’t changed over half a century, nor is an end in sight. Ironically, rock’s culture is inherently rebellious; its DNA is wired to buck the power structure. That it lags far behind the corporate world in providing opportunities for women is a problem. While its performers and fans fancy themselves as progressive and anti-establishment—this self-described spirit is essential to the success of the genre—it remains a deficiently patriarchal system. And there seem to be no real solutions in sight at any of its levels, from the early educational ages of recruitment right up to the top of the pop charts. We came very close to electing a woman president. Are we not ready for a female guitarist? Can we not imagine two female guitarists on one stage backing a male act? Perhaps our first woman president will put this on her agenda. |
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Comments
You paint a dark picture there, and to an extent you may be right. And maybe because they are few they are easy to spot, but I for one see plenty of female rockers around. And not only are they “rockers”, many of them are good to boot.
This past year, guitar virtuosos Marnie Stern and Kaki King have both released records. All-girl band Vivian Girls have had a lot of press. In Norway, there are plenty of female rockers solo and groups. One of the groups, the Bazooka Boppers, is a band fronted by a male vocalist. And the guy came in after the band was formed, he’s the “add-on”.
Do we want more women in rock? Of course, especially because they can add views, values, and experiences that male musicians may not be able to channel. And more so if they enhance the quality of the music and the rock experience.
Comment by Chris Monsen from Oslo, Norway — December 5, 2008 @ 6:39 am
As a woman who plays, I am regularly made aware of this issue. The guys I play with are great, but my practice space is not female-friendly, I’m absolutely regarded as a band girlfriend when I load in my gear, and I hear comments on a semi-regular basis about how a woman’s place is in music is not holding an electric guitar.
What fuels my fire further is that I’m personally not a great player. Perhaps it’s a cop-out, but growing up my parents stuck me in front of a piano, which I hated, and as a result never really learned to play. I am the woman who didn’t start playing guitar in public until university and by that point, lost those critical ‘mentoring’ opportunities that are discussed in the article.
What will make rock a gender neutral zone? Rock programs for girls-only, parents who support girls behind all kinds of instruments, and audiences who aren’t more critical of female musicians than their male bandmates.
Comment by Mel Sturk — December 5, 2008 @ 9:19 am
There are many reasons why this issue makes me so angry. Not only is a woman’s playing ability judged more harshly, but so is her physical appearance. Many men in the scene fail to recognize the problem too. It just blows.
Comment by Devin Tomaney from Ottawa, ON — December 5, 2008 @ 9:42 am
Having toured for years with a band that had several female members, I agree with all of the points raised in this article. However, allow me to add the following observations:
1. Though the music game as a whole skews male chauvanistic, attitudes vary considerably from band to band and scene to scene. Now, I don’t want to start any inter-subculture feuding here, but the fact is that the cultures surrounding certain genres of music tend to be a bit more sexist than others. My own band was fairly egalitarian, and our fanbase - itself disproprtionately female - usually shared our mindset. However, there were other groups we performed with where the “chick bassist” was always taking flak from bandmates and fans.
2. In strictly material terms, touring isn’t a female-friendly environment, especially on the D.I.Y. level. I don’t think many people would disagree that - for whatever reason - most women have higher standards of hygiene than most men, and when you’re starting out touring is nothing but filthy vans and squalid floors. Maybe one night in three you stay at a place where the towels aren’t moldy. To add insult to injury, nobody seems to care if boys get a bit suczzy out on the road - some “groupies” actually prefer their musicians that way - but if the girl in the band doesn’t look stunnning every single night, there’s bound to be rude comments.
3. The sexual dynamics of touring tend to fit better with the sexual attitudes of your average college-aged male than they do with the sexual attitudes of most women. While there are plenty of reasons for joining or forming a touring band - art, glory, camaraderie, adventure, the thrill of perforance - I think the prospect of “hooking up” with a different person in a different city every night is a major motivating factor for many male musicians, whereas - for whatever reason - women tend to go for quality over quanitity in their relationships and, in a touring situation, will usually end up dating another member of the band, then quit the group if the relationship goes sour (that said, many of the most enduring bands I know are anchored by a married couple).
Comment by Emil from Chicago — December 5, 2008 @ 11:43 am
My experience may not be indicative of rock and roll in general, I find the music scene in Portland, Oregon is very supportive of women musicians. Male rockers still outnumber women, but the support that all female bands have here is much stronger than the numbers would indicate. The riot girl movement originated in the Pacific Northwest, and bands that came out of that movement like Bikini Kill and Sleater Kinney went on to become internationally recognized. Newer artists like the New Bloods, the Vivian Girls, and Marnie Stern have received almost universal adulation from local critics. The nationally circulated magazine Bitch is headquartered in the city, and has been a strident critic of sexism in media and the arts. The feminist bookstore In Other Words regularly hosts events featuring women musicians. Portland supports women at all levels of musical competence, from high-profile professional players like Janet Weiss to young girls just starting to play. A few years ago, local musicians set up the Rock and Roll Camp for Girls to encourage young women to feel good about playing music. It has inspired similar organizations that now exist in several major cities across the globe. So with the all visibility and support, why aren’t there more women rockers in Portland? I can’t give you an answer, but I can say that you need to look past the normal answer of institutionalized sexism. I’m not claiming that sexism doesn’t exist here on a personal level. Women here receive the same sort of boneheaded comments they do everywhere, but there is ample support within the music community to counter that kind of mentality. To say otherwise would imply that the efforts women musicians here are ineffectual.
Comment by Matthew S from Portland, Oregon — December 6, 2008 @ 5:51 pm
I’m surprised you don’t focus more on that historical anomaly in the otherwise sexist rock biz - the relative prevalence of female bass players, and not just in all- or predominantly female bands. Think Pixies, Sonic Youth, Talking Heads, Smashing Pumpkins, Adverts, Delta 5, Ultrasound, early Pogues, late Gang of Four, plus Carole Kaye, Suzi Quatro, Aimee Mann, Gail Ann Dorsey, Me’shell Ndgeoncello (sp??)...
Comment by Tim Footman from London/Bangkok — December 6, 2008 @ 8:28 pm
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First of all, I have to say thank you. Thank you thank you thank you. This is something that hardly ever gets any awareness and commentary.
As Matthew pointed out, yes, there tends to be a more supportive environment in the Northwest than other areas. Perhaps a better term, however, would be “less unsupportive”. Like Mel, I am a woman who plays (drums) and did not start playing publicly until college. Scratch that. I played in houses in college. I had my first real public show only a couple of months ago, just after graduation. We are an all woman band and we are very much concerned with making a statement about the lack of women in rock. We say so on stage. We scream it into megaphones and mics.
I don’t think that the Northwest is necessarily different from anywhere else in terms of a supportive fan base. I think it’s much more that the area tends to foster women’s creativity in spite of a hostile environment. There’s simply more radical feminism happening out here than other places. More women willing to get up on stage, even if they don’t play very well, and deal with the verbal (and physical) assaults of predominantly male rock fans.
Mel, all woman rock spaces are exactly what we need more of. Rock camps are great places to start and we have to target young girls so that we can create a safe space for lady rockers in the future. What I think is even more important, though, is to have enough people speaking up about the lack of women on stage that people actually take notice. People need to see that there is a problem before there will be enough driving force to actually make a change. Again, David, thank you for helping to do just that.
Comment by AJ from Bellingham, WA — December 12, 2008 @ 7:19 pm